Comments on: A response to Lian Kunga article on miZo unification http://samaw.com/a-response-to-lian-kunga-article-on-mizo-unification/1105 Northeast India Blog from Maraland in Mizoram Mon, 06 Feb 2012 12:01:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Bianca Son http://samaw.com/a-response-to-lian-kunga-article-on-mizo-unification/1105/comment-page-1#comment-10975 Bianca Son Mon, 11 Oct 2010 08:19:24 +0000 http://samaw.com/?p=1105#comment-10975 Lian Sakhong's degree is in Theology; he is not a historian by any means. He might be doing a lot on the political front, but do not mistake his being an academic. He is always politically motived above all. Dr. Vumson did realize that creating subgroups was a mistake. This practice was learned from the Colonials who had a need to classify everything from the flora and fauna to the people themselves. Vumson did concede that it had been a mistake but that dialects had changed over time given the ruggedness of the Hills, many have few interactions, hence the changed dialects. Even if we learn Lai, we will all always be Zo. Thank you Martin for forwarding a defense of real History. Lian Sakhong’s degree is in Theology; he is not a historian by any means. He might be doing a lot on the political front, but do not mistake his being an academic. He is always politically motived above all. Dr. Vumson did realize that creating subgroups was a mistake. This practice was learned from the Colonials who had a need to classify everything from the flora and fauna to the people themselves. Vumson did concede that it had been a mistake but that dialects had changed over time given the ruggedness of the Hills, many have few interactions, hence the changed dialects. Even if we learn Lai, we will all always be Zo.

Thank you Martin for forwarding a defense of real History.

]]> By: Martin http://samaw.com/a-response-to-lian-kunga-article-on-mizo-unification/1105/comment-page-1#comment-5574 Martin Sat, 04 Apr 2009 14:07:58 +0000 http://samaw.com/?p=1105#comment-5574 Dear Steven, One doesn't need a PHD from a uni to understand scholar work and pilgarism. u just need to search on the web and get the basics like in 30 minutes. There is a book review for Lian's book by Vumson, Chin Identity book review by Vumson. Search it on the net. I really don't wanna ruin this site. EVERYONE SHOULD READ IT. i am not saying u have to agree with it. think about that after u read it Just because people are doing things or in places doesn't mean that they are doing it correctly. look at CNF. A successful Hakha group manipulating the TERM CHIN for hakha's own prosperity. again, don't try to say that i am just Thedim, Every Zo families know what u guys have been stealing. life is very practical. when u steal from others THEY SIMPLY KNOW. that's about it. sorry for ur times dudes. take care. no more hope u guys from hakha who got brainwashed by ur fathers would in near future be brave and smart enough to use ur own true identity which is ZO from Zotlang cheers Dear Steven,
One doesn’t need a PHD from a uni to understand scholar work and pilgarism. u just need to search on the web and get the basics like in 30 minutes. There is a book review for Lian’s book by Vumson, Chin Identity book review by Vumson. Search it on the net. I really don’t wanna ruin this site. EVERYONE SHOULD READ IT. i am not saying u have to agree with it. think about that after u read it

Just because people are doing things or in places doesn’t mean that they are doing it correctly. look at CNF. A successful Hakha group manipulating the TERM CHIN for hakha’s own prosperity. again, don’t try to say that i am just Thedim, Every Zo families know what u guys have been stealing. life is very practical. when u steal from others THEY SIMPLY KNOW.

that’s about it. sorry for ur times dudes. take care. no more

hope u guys from hakha who got brainwashed by ur fathers would in near future be brave and smart enough to use ur own true identity which is ZO from Zotlang

cheers

]]> By: Steven http://samaw.com/a-response-to-lian-kunga-article-on-mizo-unification/1105/comment-page-1#comment-5505 Steven Wed, 01 Apr 2009 11:58:29 +0000 http://samaw.com/?p=1105#comment-5505 @Martin, be realistic. Chin is the name of the state and the most visible and heard name outside of Burma. That is the reason why the name CHin is used. There is no unifying name today. I guess you are from Teddim- ZOmi side. If you refute Dr. Lian, go and get Ph.D from Uppsala University in Sweden for yourself and you will know who is who. Bring out your points against Dr. Lian, I will try to answer you one by one. And be careful using liar. It doesn't justify your stand. If you have no scholarly work to go against Lian, your rhetoric will be laughed at, and using words like liar do not justify your point, those words belong to literate but uneducated folks. Be careful, care for the readers in this website. @Martin, be realistic. Chin is the name of the state and the most visible and heard name outside of Burma. That is the reason why the name CHin is used. There is no unifying name today. I guess you are from Teddim- ZOmi side.

If you refute Dr. Lian, go and get Ph.D from Uppsala University in Sweden for yourself and you will know who is who.

Bring out your points against Dr. Lian, I will try to answer you one by one. And be careful using liar. It doesn’t justify your stand. If you have no scholarly work to go against Lian, your rhetoric will be laughed at, and using words like liar do not justify your point, those words belong to literate but uneducated folks. Be careful, care for the readers in this website.

]]> By: Martin http://samaw.com/a-response-to-lian-kunga-article-on-mizo-unification/1105/comment-page-1#comment-5495 Martin Wed, 01 Apr 2009 02:11:05 +0000 http://samaw.com/?p=1105#comment-5495 Dear Steven, (Seriosuly do that, u might learn sth) Search in the web or go to a university and look for scholar work and pilgarism (un-scholar). You will fine what one needs to be in order to call himself a scholar. There are rules and ethics to follow and there is even a degree for that kind of study. Then look at Lian sakhong book and try to get all the First Hand Lies and how many ?? in every sentences ? you want to start ? Lian versus 2) The term old dog is not mine, i borrowed it. I got this term from a guy(s) who are in the Chin Political Society. They know better about him than me or maybe yourself. Though i do feel i need to apologize for using this term to a senior. it's rude.But if it is to show the values and ethics of that particular person, simply i don't need to regret. He is just another Hakha trying very hard and sucessfully using this term CHIN to feed his hakha society ONLY. Do bear in mind that pros like Ashely South and others are speaking cleary about that Chin Orgs are all in Hakha hands and they don't represent the whole Chin. 3)Lian Sakhong is NTH. he must work alot for hakha people using this CHIN NAME. again ENC ? etc? it is random. they choose randomly. last thing, u can't simply tell people becareful unless u really mean it. think about it. but if u are angry about the term i use, yes i apologize for being rude, as he is a senior but interms of values and ethics, he is what i call he is. sorry guys, i just have to speak it right out, remember ur mothers are not from CHINA or Chin or Jin. thz for ur comment,i want feed backs. again sorry for not using nice words, i have limited patience for liers. Martin Dear Steven,

(Seriosuly do that, u might learn sth) Search in the web or go to a university and look for scholar work and pilgarism (un-scholar). You will fine what one needs to be in order to call himself a scholar. There are rules and ethics to follow and there is even a degree for that kind of study. Then look at Lian sakhong book and try to get all the First Hand Lies and how many ?? in every sentences ? you want to start ? Lian versus

2) The term old dog is not mine, i borrowed it. I got this term from a guy(s) who are in the Chin Political Society. They know better about him than me or maybe yourself. Though i do feel i need to apologize for using this term to a senior. it’s rude.But if it is to show the values and ethics of that particular person, simply i don’t need to regret. He is just another Hakha trying very hard and sucessfully using this term CHIN to feed his hakha society ONLY. Do bear in mind that pros like Ashely South and others are speaking cleary about that Chin Orgs are all in Hakha hands and they don’t represent the whole Chin.

3)Lian Sakhong is NTH. he must work alot for hakha people using this CHIN NAME. again ENC ? etc? it is random. they choose randomly.

last thing, u can’t simply tell people becareful unless u really mean it. think about it. but if u are angry about the term i use, yes i apologize for being rude, as he is a senior but interms of values and ethics, he is what i call he is.

sorry guys, i just have to speak it right out, remember ur mothers are not from CHINA or Chin or Jin.

thz for ur comment,i want feed backs. again sorry for not using nice words, i have limited patience for liers.
Martin

]]> By: Steven http://samaw.com/a-response-to-lian-kunga-article-on-mizo-unification/1105/comment-page-1#comment-5477 Steven Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:58:25 +0000 http://samaw.com/?p=1105#comment-5477 Martin (Tha), you must be someone from Vunsom's community or atleast related to Zo, Zomi, Teddim, etc. Your biased view on Lian Sakhong is very immature. Lian is a respected Scholar who wished to help Chin politicians to his best. Why call him cheap? Both are great scholars in their own right. It only shows your character. Be careful.. Martin (Tha), you must be someone from Vunsom’s community or atleast related to Zo, Zomi, Teddim, etc. Your biased view on Lian Sakhong is very immature. Lian is a respected Scholar who wished to help Chin politicians to his best. Why call him cheap? Both are great scholars in their own right. It only shows your character. Be careful..

]]> By: Martin http://samaw.com/a-response-to-lian-kunga-article-on-mizo-unification/1105/comment-page-1#comment-5476 Martin Tue, 31 Mar 2009 12:58:50 +0000 http://samaw.com/?p=1105#comment-5476 HI , just wanna comment. You can't label Lian what ever with Vumson on the same level. one is outright lier and another is a pure scholar. Vumson in his Chin identity review soundly said he made mistake by making 6 subs and that since we are one nation, there is no such thing as that or it is not nesscary and it doesn't hlep for unification. Though i agree or more like it is a MUST that every Zo language must be safeguard and protected into legal folds and that is a necessity. Lian sakhong or old cheap dog has lost credit in the political community. his book celary defines what kind of person he is. tha HI ,

just wanna comment. You can’t label Lian what ever with Vumson on the same level. one is outright lier and another is a pure scholar.
Vumson in his Chin identity review soundly said he made mistake by making 6 subs and that since we are one nation, there is no such thing as that or it is not nesscary and it doesn’t hlep for unification.
Though i agree or more like it is a MUST that every Zo language must be safeguard and protected into legal folds and that is a necessity.

Lian sakhong or old cheap dog has lost credit in the political community. his book celary defines what kind of person he is.

tha

]]> By: rc chhakchhuak http://samaw.com/a-response-to-lian-kunga-article-on-mizo-unification/1105/comment-page-1#comment-5375 rc chhakchhuak Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:39:47 +0000 http://samaw.com/?p=1105#comment-5375 I did not read the article. But i could somehow understand what the two try to mean.. whatever.. as it is.. langauge is not yhe major thing that could seperate our identity. As we are indian we need to speak hindi if we want to come out of our states. The langauge we learn and speak differ from every state we are to stay. If we stay in Tamil nadu we have to learn tamil. Likewise if we are in Mizoram we need to learn mizo and speak no matter the intonation may comes. But if we know our own sub tribal langauge i strongly recommend to learn and know... but we should always try to learn our common langauge MIZO. Otherwise we will be like arunachali who speak their own subtribal langauge without knowing nor having common langauge..and that devides the unity. I did not read the article. But i could somehow understand what the two try to mean.. whatever.. as it is.. langauge is not yhe major thing that could seperate our identity. As we are indian we need to speak hindi if we want to come out of our states. The langauge we learn and speak differ from every state we are to stay. If we stay in Tamil nadu we have to learn tamil. Likewise if we are in Mizoram we need to learn mizo and speak no matter the intonation may comes. But if we know our own sub tribal langauge i strongly recommend to learn and know… but we should always try to learn our common langauge MIZO. Otherwise we will be like arunachali who speak their own subtribal langauge without knowing nor having common langauge..and that devides the unity.

]]> By: Martin http://samaw.com/a-response-to-lian-kunga-article-on-mizo-unification/1105/comment-page-1#comment-5366 Martin Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:27:25 +0000 http://samaw.com/?p=1105#comment-5366 Hi, you can't simply divide the Zo nation in 6 major tribes because it i is one nationa and not 6 tribes. Vumson himself said he regretted and made mistake by making those kind of sub tribe table. look for book review of chin identity by Vumson Hi,

you can’t simply divide the Zo nation in 6 major tribes because it i is one nationa and not 6 tribes. Vumson himself said he regretted and made mistake by making those kind of sub tribe table.

look for book review of chin identity by Vumson

]]> By: damdama http://samaw.com/a-response-to-lian-kunga-article-on-mizo-unification/1105/comment-page-1#comment-5049 damdama Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:38:05 +0000 http://samaw.com/?p=1105#comment-5049 I didnt read the article but I think Duhlian is spoken largely due to the fact that majority of people of Mizoram understand this language.... And historically speaking, it provided the Sailo and other kings an easy way of maintaining their towns..... So, it has continued to this day. And more and more people will probably speak Duhlian while other languages may die out. Some are already practically dead like the ralte language. I didnt read the article but I think Duhlian is spoken largely due to the fact that majority of people of Mizoram understand this language….
And historically speaking, it provided the Sailo and other kings an easy way of maintaining their towns…..
So, it has continued to this day. And more and more people will probably speak Duhlian while other languages may die out. Some are already practically dead like the ralte language.

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